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How social media ruined JDate for me.

posted Sunday, 6 July 2008

You know how everyone claims they know a couple that met on JDate or Match.com? My rabbi says that 12 of the last 15 weddings he officiated were from JDate. I actually have friends who met and will soon be engaged and JDate was also how they met. So despite all of my negative feelings about the supermarket of Jewish dating, I bit the bullet and paid for a month membership yesterday.

Sigh.

I'm going to try and fix my attitude for the remaining 29 days, but I'm feel very down about the whole JDate thing this evening. Okay, so it isn't just JDate that has me down, but it JDate that is going to take the blame. How's that for projecting?

How Social Media Ruined Online Dating For Me

1. JDate doesn't have paragraph breaks and if I insert paragraph breaks using HTML, you would think I typed some funny letters. I find the lack of paragraph breaks maddening and then I don't read "about me" sections that are longer than 8-10 lines.

2. JDate doesn't have status updates or archive changes to profiles. It just says "Updated," but you can't see what was updated. It isn't that I don't think that people should be able to edit or tweak the language of their profiles, but I've gotten used to some sort of running commentary of moods and thoughts.

3. JDate doesn't have many places for open answers and checking [] Surfing the Web/Chatting Online doesn't really explain this whole bloggy/twitter thing I do.

4. JDate doesn't allow that ambient intimacy to form through phatic communication, not in any real way. JDate does allow for canned e-cards and flirts--but I find those to be incredibly impersonal and I won't respond.

5. I also don't IM with strangers, I know that sounds strange given how much I communicate with strangers on Twitter. But I've found that men don't keep their manners well when they are on IM with a woman they haven't met. Straight to inappropriate comments (at least in my opinion) and then we'll never meet. So it drives me crazy that men want to initiate talking via IM, when I think that is more intimate communication than email.

6. JDate only allows me to add Y/M/N (Yes, Maybe, No) or HotList a profile. Where is my tagging? Where is my note-taking? I want to be able to say "this profile is interesting b/c of this" or "note to self: you marked him a NO because of that." And then I can't sort through my Yes, Maybe, No's to see if I want to initiate contact. 

7. JDate doesn't allow me to give headlines to my photos. People pick photos that show them in Jerusalem as a not-so-subtle comment on supporting Israel. Well, two of my photos are from my last trip to Israel, but nobody can tell. But also the Uncles can't designate "not my kid" on the photos with nieces and nephews.

8. I'm not sure I have a number 8.

9. Not to mention the Jewish world in Chicago is small and the Jewish world of men who do online dating is small. So if we've already gone out or you are my friend's ex, I'd like to be able to easily block you from showing up in my results. Seriously, why do the men I mark No keep showing up?

How has Social Media changed how you use online dating? Or did it negate the need for online dating, because you met your significant other via your blog? twitter? seesmic? Or did it make you run from any sort of online dating and out into the real world? 

UPDATE: I did, at the urging of many, send this post to JDate via a contact form. The post has now been read over 300 times in one day, definitely making it one of my most popular posts ever. Nerve = struck.

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1. Laura "Pistachio" Fitton left...
Sunday, 6 July 2008 8:29 pm :: http://www.twitter.com/pistachio

I got a chuckle out of this. The social media features on these erstwhile, err, social sites leave a whole LOT to be desired.

I've hit another very odd stumbling block where my social media life and my curiosity about online dating clash. I'm REALLY reluctant to reveal my online personality/identity at these sites. At all. Ironic because most people are protecting their offline identities from discovery, right? I'm more concerned about online (in part because it's so easy to get my offline deets once you know my online ones, but still).

I'm obviously no luddite. I met my (separated) husband via match.com (and simultaneously through IRL friends, but that's another story). But I'm finding myself VERY conservative about reentering online dating. So much of my life, career and identity are currently rooted in and available on the web. It's hard to convey the essentials of who I am and what I do. Best part? I made up my "edating" screenname using a web2.0 company name generator. Heh.


2. Amy Guth left...
Monday, 7 July 2008 9:46 am :: http://bigmouthindeedstrikesagain.blogsp

Sounds like someone needs to start a JDate/Facebook mashup. Hm... I wonder who that could be...? ;)


3. Leah Jones left...
Monday, 7 July 2008 9:53 am

Pistachio - I don't even want to go into dating a fellow blogger or social media user. Oy vey!

Amy - looks left, looks right. Hmmm...


4. phyllis left...
Monday, 7 July 2008 9:09 pm :: http://imabima.blogspot.com

this is interesting - have you considered forwarding these comments to jdate? it might help them to update their system. i didn't use jdate, rabbinical school worked for me, but i have actually done a lot of jdate weddings too....


5. Estee left...
Monday, 7 July 2008 9:57 pm

More evidence of the technology generation gap...and now I feel OLD!

For us "older" singles, JDate (and online dating) was just a (usually unpleasant) interim step to making initial contact and setting up a face-to-face meeting. I never considered using it the way you describe as a tool to actually get to know someone. I took it for granted that communication was limited -- since the ultimate goal was meeting face-to-face, preferably sooner rather than later. (Yeah, there are those creepy guys who are looking to "IM" with you -- mostly late at night or in the wee hours of the morning. These are the same guys who are checking out the babes wherever they go -- hoping to "score". I loved the fact that online I could just hit "Quit" and they would vanish!) What a difference a decade makes!

I agree with the poster about forwarding your comments to Jdate -- or better yet, get some backing, pull together a few partners from among your substantial network, and... *ahem*... start your own Jewish Singles Social Networking Phenomena!


6. Rivster left...
Tuesday, 8 July 2008 3:39 pm :: http://frumesarah.com

I'm with Phyl and your rabbi. The majority of weddings I do are of couples who met on JDate. Jews of ALL ages. You just have to stick with it.

I, of course, can afford to be a big shot cause I met my husband at shul when I was NINE!!!

:)


7. Gila left...
Friday, 11 July 2008 12:17 am :: http://www.myshrapnel.blogspot.com/

I hate Jdate. I hate Dosidate. I hate blind dating. I actually hate dating, period.

And, alas, at this point I know that I can either get over my antipathy towards these sites or I am going to stay single for ever and ever and ever....


8. Mike left...
Saturday, 12 July 2008 9:49 pm

okcupid.com has many of the features you want and is free but unfortunately there hasn't been a large exodus of Jews to this site or any other site. Let my people go! ;-)


9. Shaun Eli left...
Sunday, 13 July 2008 6:57 am :: http://www.BrainChampagne.com

Sure, it has lots of flaws, and more modern sites such as the social networking websites have features not incorporated into JDate. But the relevant question is not whether the site is flawed, it's whether it's better than not having the site at all.

In essence-- does the lack of certain features really make the site unusable for you, or just less usable? Isn't a car without power windows and doorlocks, and without a radio, still better than taking the bus? Some of the features you'd like to see can be gotten around by using a pen and paper to keep track of things (or, an open word processing document that you can search for key words in). Sure it's more annoying but the large number of people you can peruse on your computer, and the vast amount of information you can learn about them (or surmise about them) before ever contacting them, makes internet dating efficient, if nothing else.

(my satirical piece on internet dating can be found here: http://brainchampagne.com/ComedicEssays.html)

Shaun Eli Comedian and some-time JDater


10. John left...
Monday, 14 July 2008 9:20 am :: http://www.jewglue.com

Hi Leah,

Just came across your blog and have been enjoying it. You mentioned out new site (www.jewglue.com) on your twitter feed and it led me to your blog here. Its really interesting to hear what people like and don't like about the various dating and social media sites out there. We are trying to build a site for Jewish networking as well as dating that is mainly based on user feedback and features missing from the "other sites" that are available.

If you haven't yet signed up for our site I'd really encourage you to do so and then PLEASE let us know what you think of what we have created so far. Your feedback would be really helpful in making our networks the best they can be. You may find something you like in both the business network (free) as well as the dating (currently free) network.

Hope to hear from you... ALL feedback is welcome :)

-John JewGlue Tech Admin


11. Benji Lovitt left...
Monday, 14 July 2008 4:22 pm :: http://www.whatwarzone.com

Wow, very well thought out, Leah. Since discovering Facebook, I've wondered how these free online networking sites have affected Jdate's profits. I started using Jdate (deep breath) about 10 years ago but the young just-getting-out-of-college generation hasn't. For a group so used to Facebook and the like, it's hard for me to imagine them forking up 30-whatever dollars a month for Jdate. Anyone have any idea if "everyone" is still on Jdate?


12. Leah left...
Saturday, 19 July 2008 5:23 pm

I'd like to add another feature Jdate sorely needs. There is no search by state. I mean, they allow you to search "my region", but it seems limited to a three mile radius. I'd like to see profiles from users around my state, and not just in my region or country. It would make searching so much easier and sensible.